if jesus was really viewed as the greatest teacher who ever lived...........why would a 3rd party need to explain his teaching?
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Viviane: Oh? Do tell me more...
LOL
So you asked on another thread what is spirituality and now you ask for more information on what is the difference between the Trinity and the God of Abraham?
Were you ever a Witness? Just asking with, as you know, no relevance in mind.
if jesus was really viewed as the greatest teacher who ever lived...........why would a 3rd party need to explain his teaching?
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Viviane: The org, in terms of behavior, is no worse than any other group of Christians. That's not a sign of God doing anything.
Which God? The Trinitarian God or the God of Abraham? They are not the same.
a fresno man is facing murder charges in court this week for the shooting death of a jehovahs witness who later died after refusing a blood transfusion.. according to police, quevedo and silva argued over over gang membership with quevedo returning later in the evening to shoot silva through the security door at his home.. silva reportedly told a fresno police officer jehovah, jehovah, im dying, im dying, as he was taken to a hospital where he died during surgery after refusing a blood transfusion because he was a jehovahs witness.. it is the belief of many jehovahs witnesses that it is against gods will to have a blood transfusion.. according to defense attorney antonio alvarez, quevedo should not have been charged with murder because silva refused a transfusion that could have saved his life.. prosecutor gabriel brickey disagrees and will call fresno county pathologist michael chambliss to testify that, even if silva had received the transfusion, he would have died because one bullet hit a a major vein.. quevedo has already served time in prison for felony battery and theft and was on supervised release when he was arrested for shooting silva.. if convicted of murder he would face life in prison.. original story with suspect picture can be found here: fresno shooting.
The shooter put the victim in the situation he found himself in. If I get shot in the femoral artery and the surgeon tells me my leg must be amputated as a result of the blood loss to the tissues and I refuse to have it amputated and I lose my life the circumstance within which I found myself was the direct fault of the shooter not myself.
The brother who refused blood was put in that circumstance by the one who shot him and is as a result responsible for his death.
jesus was a jew who apparently thought he was the messiah, however, after dying, his disciples began to propagate the lie that he would return from heaven during his generation.
but, his generation passed away, and it was clear that it was a false prophecy, then a dishonest christian wrote the second letter of peter so as to condemn those who realised that the prophecy was a fiasco.
interestingly, and sadly, this religion survived,....why????
Hypothetical:
God causes bolts of lightning to be seen around the world. The bolts of lightning seen around the world inscribe large boulders around the world with the commands to love one another, to care for the widows and orphans, to show kindness and share what we have. And if we do we will inherit everlasting life.
What would truly change on earth?
to all brothers and sisters reading this site: "and i love you so" (remember the don mclean song?
)...is the feeling most of us had with regard to the watchtower and the brothers leading it.
but truly, who did we get baptized for?
A Watcher, the Governing Body has lost its way by promoting themselves over and above all the anointed.
Fred Franz and Nathan Knorr put themselves within a group; the anointed. But not the present Governing Body. No, they are the All upon which all things organizational hangs. What kind of personality believes such a thing?
Not a humble one.
to all brothers and sisters reading this site: "and i love you so" (remember the don mclean song?
)...is the feeling most of us had with regard to the watchtower and the brothers leading it.
but truly, who did we get baptized for?
Hi John Aquila,
I have found it interesting that John Aquila Brown thought 1917 a significant year. From JWFacts:
In 1823, John Aquila Brown published in The Even-Tide that the "seven times" of Daniel 4 were prophetic of 2,520 years, running from the beginning of Nebuchadnezzar's reign in 604 B.C. to 1917 A.D. He did not equate this to the end of the Gentile Times.
1917 was the year that the Balfour Declaration was signed which for the first time since the end of David's Kingdom in 604 B.C., the world power of the day, Britain, called for the establishment of a Jewish state.
Small stuff maybe but interesting to anyone who finds it interesting.
to all brothers and sisters reading this site: "and i love you so" (remember the don mclean song?
)...is the feeling most of us had with regard to the watchtower and the brothers leading it.
but truly, who did we get baptized for?
I agree Joe. At times the sadness is overwhelming. The fact that I trusted men who were pretenders or as Ray Franz wrote, followers of followers, at times gets to me.
I think that's why I continue posting here. Just to get some of that disappointment and sadness out of me.
Appreciate your input,
Frank
hello, i am certainly new to all of this.
i have recently been studying the prophecy's, and i was wondering if they are of any importance at all?
br.
lett, people on this site imitate jesus every day.
they imitate jesus' custom of pointing out the hypocrisy, self-love and greed the religious leaders in his religion practiced daily.
I absolutely agree SAHS. Russell was grasping for anything that would support his chronology. Even today there are Bible Students who still believe the Great Pyramid is God's Stone Witness. But at least they do not practice the unloving practices found in the Jehovah's Witnesses religion.
There is more love shown among the Bible Students than in Bethel.
hello, i am certainly new to all of this.
i have recently been studying the prophecy's, and i was wondering if they are of any importance at all?
Viviane: Cofty's answer is excellent.
In my opinion, your answer was much more pointed, it addressed the first century question, thus it is a better answer.
You've not demonstrated why think your question is relevant.
I ask a question. Relevance is something you look for not me.
